Terry, It’s Time to Talk About Joy Corning
- Friday, November 20, 2009, 6:02
- Battleground Iowa
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By Emily Geiger
Terry, Terry, Terry… how many chances are you going to need before you finally get it right?
I’m glad to hear (again) that you signed Iowa’s defense of marriage law and that you would support an amendment defining marriage as a union between one man and one woman.
I’m also glad that you’ve finally stated that you believe the Iowa Supreme Court overstepped its legal bounds.
But, once again, you BOMBED the Joy Corning question. Let’s look at what Terry said to Radio Iowa’s Kay Henderson about gay marriage and his former lieutenant governor, Joy Corning.
First, he starts off avoiding the issue and talking about how people used to think he was too conservative.
Translation: I try to be all things to all people.
Translation: Hey, remember when I used to be governor for, like, 16 years? Good times, good times…. I was really good at compromising my values then. As I said, good times…. For example, remember when I compromised on gambling, even though I said my core values were opposed to gambling. But, dude, you can totally trust me on marriage.
Translation: So, now I’m going to try to talk about the Joy Corning situation without actually talking about the Joy Corning situation. ‘Cause, you know, it’s okay to disagree about some things, ‘cause, sometimes even Democrats give you money for stuff that you really, really want. Good times….
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This is not that difficult, Terry. First, to answer the Joy Corning question, you actually have to talk about Joy Corning. And, you need to quit talking about how okay it is for people to disagree, especially on issues involving literal life and death.
You need to say something like:
“While I appreciate Joy’s previous service to our state and our party, I am disappointed with some of the actions she has taken since I left office, including her involvement in the Planned Parenthood executive organization and her recent public statements and stances against traditional marriage.
While I believe there is some room for dissent on some issues within the party, Joy must recognize that her positions on these issues are diametrically opposed to the beliefs of the vast majority of Iowa Republicans and the platform they have ratified year after year.
Times are very different from when Joy and I last served our state. Marriage is under attack in our country today as it has never been before. We now have even more scientific proof that life begins at conception and deserves to be respected and protected from that point until natural death.
If the people of Iowa choose bestow upon me the honor of being their governor in 2012, I and my administration with do everything in our power to honor marriage, honor life, and honor the values of the people who have made this state so great in generations past, and in generations to come.”
This would pretty much end the discussion. Of course, this is assuming that this is actually how Terry feels, and no one but Terry knows if that’s the case.
And, now that I’ve laid it out for them, we can be almost certain that the Branstad campaign won’t say anything of the sort. They’ve screwed up just about everything they’ve touched so far, so I’m guessing this won’t be any different.
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Branstad’s comments sounds like he wants to fix the problems of the state and make marriage between a man and a woman. What are you trying to make of this? I don’t get it.
Does Kent Sorenson need to “talk about” giving pro-”sodomy marriage” Ron Paul a forum sharing the stage with him at his own event?
My guess is that he gets the free pass from the same group criticizing TEB.
It’s probably “different” somehow.
I totally agree with your take, Emily. How many times has he had restate his position on traditional marriage, something like 3 times now? I’m pretty sure it wasn’t because he was crystal clear the first time that he would fight to uphold traditional marriage. In fact, I think it was because he used language that alluded to that, but if pressed by the other side, he could definately deny it. So, you have to ask yourself, will he do everything in his power to undo what was forced upon us by 7 judges, or won’t he. What did he say? “…I think I’m also a realist and I try to work with everybody and I try to respect other people’s points of view even if they don’t agree with me 100 percent of the time.“.
Sounds to me like he respects a persons point of view to kill a human being, if that human being is an inconvenience.
The problem is that, if TEB is really Mr. Conservative, he has to answer why on earth he picked this woman to be his LG way back when. And, since she’s gone off the deep end, he needs to distance himself from her now, which he has refused to do. And he needs to denounce her recent anti-conservative, anti-republican activity, which he has refused to do.
When you fundraise for an organization like planned parenthood who then turns around and gives craploads of money to Chet Culver to defeat republicans, that’s a problem by itself, underlying social issues aside.
I too question his position. I have questions when he refuses to address Joy Corning directly. If he refuses to say that Joy and He totally disagree on those issues and thats not where he’s at. I have questions when he refuses to say the judges he appointed were out of line and overstepped their bounds.
Terry, It’s Time to Talk About Joy Corning:
Translation:
Terry it’s time to say you hate the queers.
its strange that terry has plenty of other issues to attack him on, why you nuts focus on his religious credentials is beyond me.
Actually, the real translation is: It’s time to stop ducking the question like the stereotypical sleezy politician people are hoping you are not, but you’re proving you are.
He can give whatever answer he likes. People may not like it, but address it already.
Religious credentials, Lobo???
Allowing or preventing radical extremists into schools to promote a sexual lifestyle to children that is dangerous both physically and mentally has nothing to do with religion. It’s a public health issue.
Peggy..
Where is this happening? You would think that if anyone was in any Iowa school teaching kids how to engage in any sexual activity that it would be big news..
Hmm..so you say that being gay is a “public health issue”… so…I am to understand then that you would support rounding up anyone who is gay…I mean if its such a threat to public health for someone to be gay…doesn’t it make sense then to separate “the gays” from the rest of the non-gay public??
**sighs** I hope you realize Peggy that when you say crap like that..you only make it that much easier for Democrats to demonize us as “racist, bigoted, homophobic”, etc….
Homosexuality is wrong in terms of what God commands and it threatens society and public health. People can reason its acceptance, but its wrong.
So…we are to base public policy based upon “what God commands”? Last time I checked lundp..we are not a theocracy. Again..are we to go out..round up “the gays”…shall we exile them to a far off island?
Peggy, “I have a dream” that I wake up one day and bigots like you have disappeared and gone back into the hole that you came out of. God loves everyone. You need to ask yourself “what would Jesus do?” I’m very tired of your holier than anyone attitude. I won’t post anymore. I’m just disappointed that people like you exist in 2009. Signing off for good and I won’t be back.
From the CDC –
“From 2003 to 2004, the number of HIV/AIDS diagnoses among MSM increased 8%; this increase was statistically significant (p<0.05).”
MSM – Male having sex with Male
“The probability of HIV transmission associated with unprotected receptive anal intercourse” ranges from “0.008 to 0.032,” or between 1 in 125 and 1 in 31 (for each such act). Meanwhile, the probability of HIV transmission for unprotected vaginal intercourse ranges from “0.0005 to 0.0015,” or between 1 in 2000 and 1 in 666. This suggests that anal intercourse is at least five times more dangerous, and possibly as much as 64 times more dangerous, with a mid-range estimate of 16 to 21 times more dangerous than vaginal intercourse.” – New England Journal of Medicine
Hawk,
Do your homework or shut up.
I’m not proposing that homosexuals be isolated from the general population. What they do is a danger to themselves. When the adults of the radical homosexual movement recruit school children and rely on them to advance their agenda, that’s child endangerment.
Why is the Iowa Department of Education giving money to the Iowa Pride Network? Where in the hell do you think that money’s coming from?
Bruce,
You are correct – God does love everyone.
I propose that I’ve put more thought, time and research into this issue than you. I am not a homophobe nor do I hate homosexuals.
What is loving about adults allowing kids to be preyed on by a radical political movement at taxpayers’ expense?
“It is sobering that 41 percent of all the men had had unprotected anal sex during the past 6 months. It is also sobering that 37 percent of the HIV-infected men who did not know they were infected…and 13 percent of the HIV-infected men who did know they were HIV infected…reported unprotected insertive anal sex during the past 6 months.” – Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) surveying 3,492 15- to 22-year-old MSM
“The John Hopkins University School of Public Health interviewed 361 gay and bisexual men age 15 to 22 and found that “37 percent said they had not used a condom for anal sex during their last sexual encounter with another male. Twenty-one percent reported having been high on drugs or alcohol during their last same-sex encounter.” – GayHealth News (January 3, 2001).
“STDs are rampant in the homosexual community. The Centers for Disease Control reports: “Several recent reports have documented alarming increases in sexually transmitted infection rates among men who have sex with men (MSM), and a corresponding decline in safer sex practices. After years of successful prevention efforts, this trend may portend a resurgence of HIV infection in the MSM community.” – 2002 National STD Prevention Conference
“Men who have sex with men (MSM) are at an increased risk of becoming infected with hepatitis A virus (HAV). Outbreaks of hepatitis A continue among MSM in large urban areas and surveillance data suggest that at least 10 percent of acute HAV infections are among MSM.” – “Health Professionals Should not Miss an Opportunity to Vaccinate Men Who Have Sex with Men against hepatitis A and hepatitis B,” Centers for Disease Control National Center for Infectious Diseases (March 3, 2003).
Emily makes me want to puke with this tripe. Its freakin satire. Why would we take you seriously?
Thanks for the info Conservative Thinker, but I think you’re posting it on the wrong site.
You most certainly are a homophobe, Peggy. You can’t hide that fact with a fog of medical concerns and fear that children are being preyed on by gays. Where is the preying happening in Iowa anyway? I haven’t heard about it, haven’t read about it anywhere but from you. Gay sex may be a danger to themselves, but it is none of your business. But to be fair, its your right to be a homophobe. You have the right to be wrong.
TEB knows people don’t want a governor that only wants confrontation. However, I wonder if he knows modern conservatives do want that. Given the reality of course that that is necesarily true only because not everyone agrees with them. Conservatives are tyrants. With us or against us.
Conservatives = American Taliban. In more ways than one.
rob,
You’d better look up the definition of homophobe before you start throwing it around. I’m not afraid of homosexuals in the least. They are people, too. What’s to be afraid of?
Why is the Iowa Dept. of Education giving the Iowa Pride Network money? Don’t you care how your tax dollars are being spent, rob? Don’t you care that radicals are being given free rein in our schools and easy access to our children, not to protect them but to recruit and use them for their own political agenda?
At some point, you’re going to have to engage your brain and face the facts.
Peggy, you can’t provide a single example of gay activists going into a school to tell kids “how to be gay”. You can’t give a single example of gay activists “recruiting” kids to be gay or to advance the “gay agenda”.
You’re making yourself look like an utter fool.
“Montgomery County public-school officials are asking students and teachers to review a new sex-education curriculum…The lessons, which include discussions on homosexuality and condom use, were taught in six schools last month, and officials intend to introduce them countywide this fall. ” – Washington Times, April 8, 2007
“…They instruct parents to tell 5-year-olds about intercourse, though explaining orgasm can wait until he’s finished kindergarten…” – Washington Times August 10, 2009
Hawk, what’s it going to take before you open your eyes?
You are attributing words to me that I have never uttered, i.e. fabricating stories to try and disprove me.
Homosexual sex is physically unhealthy yet its advocates (“acceptance” IS advocacy, is it not?) are allowed in to schools without question. Why doesn’t the state do the same for kids who want to smoke? Who are we to judge their social behaviors?
“Allowing or preventing radical extremists into schools to promote a sexual lifestyle to children that is dangerous both physically and mentally has nothing to do with religion. It’s a public health issue”–Peggy
You’re calling homosexuality a public health issue. Your words don’t lie. Neither your nor Peggy can cite a SINGLE example of how kids are being taught “how to be gay” or “recruiting” kids to be gay as you allege is happening. You two both sound like a couple fools.
You two would do well to heed the words of one of the greatest conservative minds–Barry Goldwater.
“Religious factions will go on imposing their will on others unless the decent people connected to them recognize that religion has no place in public policy. They must learn to make their views known without trying to make their views the only alternatives.”
Hawk,
Again, the only one talking about religion on this thread is YOU!
Not that it’s the schools’ job anyway but if someone wants to go into a school to talk about homosexuality it should ONLY be to discourage its practice since it is physically UNHEALTHY, and rates of depression and suicide are significantly higher outside the heterosexual norm, even in countries where ’sexual diversity’ is widely accepted.
When I read the work “acceptance” in any public announcement concerning Iowa’s pro-homosexual lobby and schools, it’s obvious they are not there to discourage its practice. Child endangerment, child abuse….call it what you want.