Abortion Still Front and Center in Healthcare Debate… Despite Obama’s Claims
- Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 6:35
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By Emily Geiger
So, we all heard yesterday that the Senate heathcare reform bill will raise individuals’ private health insurance premiums thousands of dollars in the next few years, which only makes sense. If there are more conditions, medications, and procedures for which the government mandates coverage, that coverage is going to get more expensive.
But what is the status of abortion funding in the healthcare debate?
I hadn’t heard much about that lately until I saw a statement released by the National Right to Life Committee.
NRLC: White House Press Secretary’s Remarks Show White House
Still Engaged in Smuggling Operation for Government Funding of Abortion
WASHINGTON (October 8, 2009) — A spokesman for the nation’s major pro-life organization said that remarks by the White House press secretary on October 7, “once again demonstrated that the White House is a partner in an ongoing smuggling operation, which if successful will result in funding of abortion on demand by the federal government.”
The following exchange occurred during the October 7, 2009, daily press briefing by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs:
QUESTION [by CNS News reporter Fred Lucas]: It’s a question on health care, actually; two questions. First, in a letter to senators last week, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops said that, quoting, “So far the health reform bills considered in the committee, including the new Senate Finance Committee bill, have not met the President’s challenge of barring the use of federal dollars for abortion.” Is that statement wrong?
MR. GIBBS: Well, I don’t want to get me in trouble at church, but I would mention there’s a law that precludes the use of federal funds for abortion that isn’t going to be changed in these health care bills.
Q: There have been, though, several amendments that would explicitly bar abortions, that would therefore reject it, some of those amendments by Democrats –
MR. GIBBS: Again, there’s a fairly well documented federal law that prevents it.
In his answers, Gibbs in essence repeated a discredited claim made by President Obama himself on August 20, when the President said: “There are no plans under health reform to revoke the existing prohibition on using federal taxpayer dollars for abortions. Nobody is talking about changing that existing provision, the Hyde Amendment. Let’s be clear about that. It’s just not true.”
More recently, Obama said in a September 9 speech to both houses of Congress that “under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions.” On September 13, George Stephanopoulos of ABC News asked Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius, “So you’re saying it will go beyond what we have seen so far in the House and explicitly rule out any public funding for abortion?,” and received from Sebelius this answer: “Well that’s exactly what the President said and I think that’s what he intends that the bill he signs will do.”
Douglas Johnson, legislative director for the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC), the national federation of right-to-life affiliates, said: “Gibbs’ statement is one more proof, if any more were needed, that the White House is actively engaged in a political smuggling operation — an attempt to achieve funding of elective abortion by the federal government, cloaked in smokescreens of contrived language and outright deception. There is no current federal law that would prevent the new programs created by the pending health care bills from paying for abortion on demand — and the White House knows this full well. Only language written directly into the bills would prevent government funding of abortions — but such language has been blocked by the Democratic chairmen of five congressional committees, with White House cooperation, and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is refusing to allow the House to even vote on adding a true Hyde Amendment to the health care bill.”
“The motivation for the ongoing White House deception is found in three recent national polls that show strong public opposition to government-funded abortion,” Johnson added.
The October 7 reporter’s question, and the quoted statement from the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, clearly pertained to the health care bills currently under consideration in Congress. The pending bills each contain one or both of the following components: (1) a nationwide government-run insurance program, “the public plan,” and (2) programs that would subsidize health insurance for tens of millions of Americans.
None of the funds that would be spent by the public plan, and none of the funds that would be spent by the premium subsidy programs, would be appropriated through the annual appropriations bills. This has been confirmed in memoranda issued by the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service. This means that none of these funds will be covered by the Hyde Amendment, because the Hyde Amendment applies only to funds appropriated through the annual Health and Human Services appropriations bill.
Under the House bill (H.R. 3200), as amended by the Capps-Waxman Amendment, the public plan would be explicitly authorized to cover elective abortions. The public plan would be a program within the Department of Health and Human Services. As a federal agency, the public plan could not possibly pay for abortions with anything other than federal funds, as documented in this memorandum.
In 2007, Barack Obama stood on stage alongside the president of the nation’s largest abortion provider, the Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA), and promised that his health reform legislation and his public plan would cover abortion. (This assertion was recently reviewed by PolitiFact.com and rated “true,” here. You can watch a short video clip of Obama making the promises here.)
“When senior congressional Democrats suggest that the public plan would pay for abortions with ‘private funds,’ they are engaged in a deception, a political hoax,” Johnson said. “The public plan would be a program operated by a federal agency, which by law can spend only federal funds. The public plan would be engaged in direct funding of elective abortion. The Hyde Amendment would not apply to this program, and the Capps Amendment explicitly authorizes the federal agency to pay for the elective abortions, using funds drawn on a U.S. Treasury account.”
Aside from the public plan, under which the government would directly fund elective abortion, both the House bill (H.R. 3200) and the two Senate bills (S. 1679 and the Senate Finance Committee bill crafted by Senator Max Baucus) would use federal funds to pay part of the cost of the premiums of private health plans that cover elective abortions. This would be a sharp departure from current federal policy. Current federal laws prevent both direct funding of abortion, and subsidies for health plans that cover abortions (except to save the life of the mother, or in cases of rape or incest). The Hyde Amendment, for example, prohibits the use of state Medicaid matching funds for elective abortion (even in states that choose to set up their own separate abortion-funding programs). But the Hyde Amendment and other current laws would not apply to the new premium subsidy programs, because they would not be funded through the appropriations bills to which the current restrictions are attached.
NRLC has issued a detailed memorandum that explains how the proposed public plan and the proposed premium subsidy programs would be funded, and why the Hyde Amendment would not apply to the proposed new programs. Another NRLC memorandum explains why all of the funds that would be spent by the public plan, and all of the funds that would be used to subsidize health plans under the premium subsidy programs, are in reality and in law “federal funds.” To document key points, both memoranda link to documents issued by the Congressional Research Service, the Congressional Budget Office, and the Government Accountability Office.
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Emily leads off: “So, we all heard yesterday that the Senate heathcare reform bill will raise individuals’ private health insurance premiums thousands of dollars in the next few years”
Em, from whom and from where did we hear that yesterday? Does the dispenser of that “info” have crediblity?
I may have heard it incorrectly, but I belileve that came from the insurance industry lobby.
You are right Demo, I would add this though also:
From nowpublic.com, “The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) recently reported that the Senate Health Care Bill would be cost nearly 850 Billion dollars and be deficit neutral.” And “…will not insure 20 million Americans…add them and…the Bill goes into the Red…The report finds…that the cost of the average family policy is approximately
$12,300 today and will rise to:
–$15,500 in 2013 under current law and to $17,200 if these provisions are implemented.
–$18,400 in 2016 under current law and to $21,300 if these provisions are implemented
–$21,900 in 2019 under current law and to $25,900 if these provisions are implemented..”
Now I realize that this report was commissioned by a group with a very large dog in the fight, but I would like the other side tell me where the report is actually wrong.
I am one citizen who wants the private insurance industry removed from the healthcare process. My letters to elected representatives only mention single-payer by Uncle Sam, nothing short of that.
The large majority of insurance carries in that business were incorporated from scratch to serve only that business and they can leave at the same door they came in through. The other old-line insurance carriers will survive by returning to their old business of life, auto, and casualty.
I just couldn’t disagree more with that statement Demo. If you feel that way, why not carry it all the way…I mean heck, why should insurance companies get to provide car insurance. We are required to HAVE car insurance, why shouldn’t the government provide that to us. And life insurance, are you kidding me?! Why should these greedy insurance companies get to make all this profit off of peoples insecurities about death. The government should step in there and make things better. As a matter of fact, aren’t we all sick and tired of these RICH people?? The idea that someone should so much better off than someone should be appalling to each and every one of us. Every child should be able to grow up in this country secure in the knowledge that they will turn out exactly like their neighbor, no matter how much harder they work in school and at their job. Every one should be equal in then end, right?
CT, I didn’t ask you to agree with me, in fact I didn’t even ask _if_ you agreed with me. I was stating with no ambiguity what this one voter and letter writer believes.
As for your attempt at reading between my lines, well, it seems it only made you talk stupid.
Well Demo, since you posted that statement in an open forum, I imagine that you might have expected someone to comment on your comment. Or maybe you just wanted to say that to yourself?
Heyy CT, just found a relevant sidelight on that industry report:
“PricewaterhouseCoopers, who authored an insurance industry report that said health care costs would escalate if Democratic reforms were enacted, put out a statement last night, according to Politico, that basically said, “Hey, we weren’t paid to evaluate the effects of the entire bill, but rather a small slice of it.”
“The statement only seems to reinforce critics’ view that the report is skewed precisely because it doesn’t take into account the totality of reform.”
That was on the Taegan Goddard site and here’s the url to the piece:
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/10/13/auditor_backs_away_from_insurance_industry_report.html
So the report may have real numbers but the methodology might have been skewed to obtain just those exact figures . . . . . or maybe the insurance industry really _is_ honest and I am just cynical.
Demo,
I read the article on Politico, and I would agree, clearly the report does not paint an accurate picture. But I would ask, what ARE the cost saving measures in the bill? And what is the likelyhood that they will be successful?
Yes…that is a VERY good question CD..considering we don’t even KNOW what the hell the bill says yet….the Senate Finance Committee is voting on the damn thing today.
Only in America can our leaders vote to approve something without even having read it or knowing the first thing about it….
Yes HawkCR, so I do hope you aren’t implying that the no-read practice is recent to the current occupants of power. After admonishing CT about reading between my lines, I’d hate to find myself being called out for attempting to read between yours. Per the no-read matter tho, it does appear that over the weekend Mr Bohner commented “that was a different time” or somesuch when asked on Faux about his Congress’ also not allowing the time for reading bills before votes..
And CT, heh-hee, sometimes old guys do just comment out loud for their own gratification.
But now seriously, my admonishment was directed more to your reading between my lines than it was to your disagreement. I do wish I might have scratched that disagreement sentence before posting.
Demo,
I wasn’t actually trying to read between the lines. I was in fact trying to make my own point about socialism. From you comments you want, “…the private insurance industry removed from the healthcare process”. So how do you envision that system to work? Is healthcare then essentially free? If so then you can imagine every single person then goes to the hospital, because, hey its free, right? How does that make the cost of health care go down? Or do you say to hospitals and nurses and doctors, you are all governement workers now?
Thanks for addressing this topic…