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		<title>By: Timmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler, you don&#039;t know me and your self-righteous attitude doesn&#039;t work here. I find it interesting that you define principles as marching in lock step with your socon issues and if some disagree with your approach then we are all &quot;moderates with no moral values&quot;. That is called Piety, which is also a sin(read Matthew 6, v.1).
See, I can quote from the Bible just like you. Last time I looked in the mirror I didn&#039;t see any horns!

The Republican Party is not a church any more than politics is a religion(despite what some may believe). Our Founding Fathers believed deeply in keeping government &amp; politics out of religion, but they also had the great foresight to understand that in order for freedom of religion to flourish, ALL beliefs deserved protection. In the political realm that means tolerance of those who don&#039;t always agree with our position and working toward common goals. In this case, that means economic issues are probably going to trump the socon issues because that is what is most important to the majority of the voters. That doesn&#039;t make them any less &quot;principled&quot; than you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler, you don&#8217;t know me and your self-righteous attitude doesn&#8217;t work here. I find it interesting that you define principles as marching in lock step with your socon issues and if some disagree with your approach then we are all &#8220;moderates with no moral values&#8221;. That is called Piety, which is also a sin(read Matthew 6, v.1).<br />
See, I can quote from the Bible just like you. Last time I looked in the mirror I didn&#8217;t see any horns!</p>
<p>The Republican Party is not a church any more than politics is a religion(despite what some may believe). Our Founding Fathers believed deeply in keeping government &amp; politics out of religion, but they also had the great foresight to understand that in order for freedom of religion to flourish, ALL beliefs deserved protection. In the political realm that means tolerance of those who don&#8217;t always agree with our position and working toward common goals. In this case, that means economic issues are probably going to trump the socon issues because that is what is most important to the majority of the voters. That doesn&#8217;t make them any less &#8220;principled&#8221; than you!</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DVFO:  &quot;Never kick a fresh turd on a hot day&quot; - Harry S. Truman.</description>
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		<title>By: Conservative Demo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conservative Demo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DVFO pontificates: &quot;the arrogant self righteousness of folks like you that believe you’re superior to everyone else.

You believe that unless the rest of us see things exactly like you, we are lacking prinicples and you even accuse others of lacking prinicples. Well, you think your principles are superior to mine and yet I chose to leave the ELCA (that you’re in full fellowship with) seventeen years ago so stop throwing your superior priciples in everyone else’s faces. You’re a hypocrite and I’m not impressed.&quot;

Geeze, am I the only one wondering if DV is looking into a mirror as he types that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DVFO pontificates: &#8220;the arrogant self righteousness of folks like you that believe you’re superior to everyone else.</p>
<p>You believe that unless the rest of us see things exactly like you, we are lacking prinicples and you even accuse others of lacking prinicples. Well, you think your principles are superior to mine and yet I chose to leave the ELCA (that you’re in full fellowship with) seventeen years ago so stop throwing your superior priciples in everyone else’s faces. You’re a hypocrite and I’m not impressed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Geeze, am I the only one wondering if DV is looking into a mirror as he types that?</p>
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		<title>By: Deace voted for Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deace voted for Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler:  Figure it out.  The only reason I&#039;ve ever brought up VP&#039;s church is because of the arrogant self righteousness of folks like you that believe you&#039;re superior to everyone else.

You believe that unless the rest of us see things exactly like you, we are lacking prinicples and you even accuse others of lacking prinicples.   Well, you think your principles are superior to mine and yet I chose to leave the ELCA (that you&#039;re in full fellowship with) seventeen years ago so stop throwing your superior priciples in everyone else&#039;s faces.  You&#039;re a hypocrite and I&#039;m not impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler:  Figure it out.  The only reason I&#8217;ve ever brought up VP&#8217;s church is because of the arrogant self righteousness of folks like you that believe you&#8217;re superior to everyone else.</p>
<p>You believe that unless the rest of us see things exactly like you, we are lacking prinicples and you even accuse others of lacking prinicples.   Well, you think your principles are superior to mine and yet I chose to leave the ELCA (that you&#8217;re in full fellowship with) seventeen years ago so stop throwing your superior priciples in everyone else&#8217;s faces.  You&#8217;re a hypocrite and I&#8217;m not impressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DFVO: The OU issue will flush itself out.  If Rants is right and BVP is lying about the OU stuff, that&#039;s not good for him obviously.  Let&#039;s see how things shake out.  A lot of people are just dying to throw BVP under the bus.  

You&#039;ve beat the church denomination thing to a pulp, you&#039;re making large leaps in your statements on that subject and nobody is really seems to be jumping on that bandwagon with you.

But it is true that if a candidate is not trustworthy, they should not be elected.  Just make sure you hold up your own favorites to the same scrutiny.  That&#039;s the part that tends to get missed.  That&#039;s when the principles come in.  If these Rants accusations are proven to be true and you still see me on the BVP bandwagon, then you&#039;ve got every right to rip me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DFVO: The OU issue will flush itself out.  If Rants is right and BVP is lying about the OU stuff, that&#8217;s not good for him obviously.  Let&#8217;s see how things shake out.  A lot of people are just dying to throw BVP under the bus.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve beat the church denomination thing to a pulp, you&#8217;re making large leaps in your statements on that subject and nobody is really seems to be jumping on that bandwagon with you.</p>
<p>But it is true that if a candidate is not trustworthy, they should not be elected.  Just make sure you hold up your own favorites to the same scrutiny.  That&#8217;s the part that tends to get missed.  That&#8217;s when the principles come in.  If these Rants accusations are proven to be true and you still see me on the BVP bandwagon, then you&#8217;ve got every right to rip me.</p>
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		<title>By: Deace voted for Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deace voted for Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler:  You&#039;re being just a bit self righteous there, aren&#039;t you?  That&#039;s the problem with you Deace/VP people--you believe you&#039;re better than others.  Well, your guy is in the process of being exposed as a liar.   We already knew he was a hypocrite because he claims to care more about the homosexual marriage issue than anyone else and then we find out his denomination approves of homosexual marriage and homosexual preachers as well as abortion.

He didn&#039;t think through his EO promise and then he opened his mouth big time by claiming if he is governor, he&#039;ll opt Iowa out of nationalized health care.

VP shows he is so hungry to be governor, he&#039;ll say anything to get the nomination.  Now the chickens are coming home to roost.  Unless VP can prove he improved the assets of OU by the 440% he claimed, he&#039;s a proven liar.

Good job picking them, Tyler.  I think you need to start looking at yourself when you&#039;re accusing others of lacking principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler:  You&#8217;re being just a bit self righteous there, aren&#8217;t you?  That&#8217;s the problem with you Deace/VP people&#8211;you believe you&#8217;re better than others.  Well, your guy is in the process of being exposed as a liar.   We already knew he was a hypocrite because he claims to care more about the homosexual marriage issue than anyone else and then we find out his denomination approves of homosexual marriage and homosexual preachers as well as abortion.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t think through his EO promise and then he opened his mouth big time by claiming if he is governor, he&#8217;ll opt Iowa out of nationalized health care.</p>
<p>VP shows he is so hungry to be governor, he&#8217;ll say anything to get the nomination.  Now the chickens are coming home to roost.  Unless VP can prove he improved the assets of OU by the 440% he claimed, he&#8217;s a proven liar.</p>
<p>Good job picking them, Tyler.  I think you need to start looking at yourself when you&#8217;re accusing others of lacking principles.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timmy... I know what your point is and you are right.  It does take dollars to win.  But you&#039;d rather cave on moral issues to get a couple guys with deep pockets to join your side.  I&#039;d rather attract some of the people that constantly vote Democrat despite the fact that they are social conservatives.  That&#039;s getting votes based on your principles.

You and Doug Gross don&#039;t care about principles.  You and he simply want the power that the guys with deep pockets can get you.  And then you owe them big time when that person gets elected.  Like I said, that&#039;s wanting to win simply because you want the power.  And if your guy can win without the votes of some people who really care about the principles, then congratulations.  Let me know how that works out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timmy&#8230; I know what your point is and you are right.  It does take dollars to win.  But you&#8217;d rather cave on moral issues to get a couple guys with deep pockets to join your side.  I&#8217;d rather attract some of the people that constantly vote Democrat despite the fact that they are social conservatives.  That&#8217;s getting votes based on your principles.</p>
<p>You and Doug Gross don&#8217;t care about principles.  You and he simply want the power that the guys with deep pockets can get you.  And then you owe them big time when that person gets elected.  Like I said, that&#8217;s wanting to win simply because you want the power.  And if your guy can win without the votes of some people who really care about the principles, then congratulations.  Let me know how that works out.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler, once again you are mis-representing what I posted. The reason Doug Gross is important is precisely because he can get the big donors to shell out big $$$. Like it or not, in order to run a credible statewide campaign you need a very big sack of cash. Gross is somebody you would want help you to start the ball rolling. Politics is a dirty, full-contact contest where candidates get bruised and bloodied and having lots of $$$ can help ease the pain. Remember, 2nd place is just the first loser!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler, once again you are mis-representing what I posted. The reason Doug Gross is important is precisely because he can get the big donors to shell out big $$$. Like it or not, in order to run a credible statewide campaign you need a very big sack of cash. Gross is somebody you would want help you to start the ball rolling. Politics is a dirty, full-contact contest where candidates get bruised and bloodied and having lots of $$$ can help ease the pain. Remember, 2nd place is just the first loser!</p>
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		<title>By: flames</title>
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		<dc:creator>flames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please educate me.  
What were the reasons Lightfoot, Gross and Nussle won the primary?  
What were the reasons those three lost the general?

I would say money, name ID, and inevitability were the reasons for the win in the primary. (It seems that Gross and Nussle were the darlings of the Des Moines monied Establishment.  That&#039;s from where the money and the notion of inevitability flowed.)

I would offer the notion that the reason they lost the general was that two of them were the darlings of the Des Moines monied Establishment.  Iowans  appear to have a passive aggressive gene in their DNA and will reject what the &quot;Establishment&quot; serves them for candidates.

For this reason I believe that a Branstad candidacy is a recipe for disaster.   He has the backing of the money people, his name ID is high (16 years as governor), and the inevitability factor.  He may win the Republican nomination, but Iowans will reject him because he will be viewed as the Establishment candidate.

I&#039;m too young to remember much of those races so please answer the questions at the top of this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please educate me.<br />
What were the reasons Lightfoot, Gross and Nussle won the primary?<br />
What were the reasons those three lost the general?</p>
<p>I would say money, name ID, and inevitability were the reasons for the win in the primary. (It seems that Gross and Nussle were the darlings of the Des Moines monied Establishment.  That&#8217;s from where the money and the notion of inevitability flowed.)</p>
<p>I would offer the notion that the reason they lost the general was that two of them were the darlings of the Des Moines monied Establishment.  Iowans  appear to have a passive aggressive gene in their DNA and will reject what the &#8220;Establishment&#8221; serves them for candidates.</p>
<p>For this reason I believe that a Branstad candidacy is a recipe for disaster.   He has the backing of the money people, his name ID is high (16 years as governor), and the inevitability factor.  He may win the Republican nomination, but Iowans will reject him because he will be viewed as the Establishment candidate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m too young to remember much of those races so please answer the questions at the top of this post.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MIE,

What is it you want to know?  Fortunately, my bishop has written a most excellent article about it.</description>
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<p>What is it you want to know?  Fortunately, my bishop has written a most excellent article about it.</p>
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