Deace and Salier have done their best to discredit King. They have discredited themselves in the process.

Tyler, you just described Deace. He says one thing and his record doesn’t match.

This is Earth, this is not Heaven and you’re not applying for acceptance into heaven. You’re job is to do what you can to get the best, most moral government here on earth.

I still don’t understand the criteria you use to determine who is worthy of a vote. Frankly, I believe if you go the Deace route, you are paralyzing yourself because it’s not possible to find someone worthy.

I do not see how looking for the best person I can get, means I’m compromising my Christian ideals.

At one time, I also had a mindset like yours but now it’s become far easier to realize that in a general election, I must do all I can to elect the most moral person I can. I’m getting sick of the old addage, “the lesser of two evils is still evil”. Yup, it is but it also describes you and me and Steve Deace.

If I were running against Culver, you would probably decide I am not worthy of your vote because I don’t agree with your strategy and you think I’m not as good a Christian as you so it’s just as moral to allow Culver to remain governor.

I hope you see how destructive is this strategy. Remember Al Franken. Al Franken needs to be the poster boy of all you purist types. Thanks a lot.

I guess it all depends on what you consider to be better off. That we still have a establishment clause is one reason we are better off. That gays can marry is good too, if you think about it. It is a reminder that our government can’t dictate the will of the majority on individuals. You have religious objections to these things, but maybe it’s time to remind you that God isn’t an american. If you truly believe that God is in control of everything political than who are you to judge gods decision to appoint BHO? If God is in control why vote at all, won’t he just pick some one for us? If you are not willing to agree to disagree about the role of religion in society, particularly government, then we are doomed to endlessly fight back and forth, reenacting the same conflicts that have plagued civilizations for all of human history. I care that Republicans win because to me Classical Republicanism is the answer to most of our societies ills. I would like to see our politics return to what seems most logical: As little government as possible, fiscal responsibility, management of the national and private interests in a way that is beneficial to all, and an emphasis on the right to be left alone. We are a nation of individuals, and as such we aren’t going to agree all the time, finding the balance of power is the trick.

DVFO… you’re absolutely right nobody is righteous here, including myself. But… I’m done comparing McCain to Obama (for example). From here on out, I’m holding up both candidates to the standards that I believe are the most important… God’s. Of course, there is never going to be a perfect candidate. But if one candidate has views that are openly against God’s law and the other says the right things but his record doesn’t match what he’s saying, then I think it is immoral to pick either one.

We’re never going to agree on this unless you believe that God chooses or allows our leaders like I do. That’s Biblical. I don’t believe my vote is going to change God’s mind one bit. But I do believe that God wants to know what I think is important. And sometimes neither candidate is acceptable.

Not to mention the entirely secular view that if we keep accepting candidates like McCain, what do you think we’re going to keep getting?

I voted for both McCain and Nussle because they were Republicans. These are they guys they gave us and they both got whipped. And that’s no accident.

That much is certain. It’s called being radically out of step with the majority of voters on both social and fiscal issues. The drum has been beaten so much that any meaning it once had has been lost. This is a transition period between older republicans and newer ones. Newer ones aren’t so afraid of this “immoral slippery slope” that many claim is occuring because they can see that it is steeped more in ideology than fact.

One of these two guys is going to win. It is STUPID and immoral to not keep the Dumbocrat out of office.

Make your choice for the most godly in the primary but after that, do everything to stop any Democrat.

Like I said it is immoral to not do all you can to keep Democrats out of power.

To surrender like you want to do is only making the matter worse. This isn’t heaven and Jesus is never going to be on a ballot and the Bible tells us there is none righteous–no, not one and you’re not perfect, either.

Now, I do admit that it is difficult to find politicians that fit the bill. Politics does take compromise, but too many people are willing to compromise on the most important things in order to win. Winning elections shouldn’t be a Christian’s number one goal.

I have tended to associate myself with conservatism and Republicans because that has traditionally been the political home that most represented my Christian worldview. For awhile I even put those beliefs ahead of my Christian beliefs, but no more. You only have to look how much further we’ve slipped down this immoral slope as a country these past years to see that despite all the Republicans we’ve elected and all the conservative influence on the radio waves and all the money we’ve raised hasn’t been enough. We’re missing something, people.