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March 4th, 2014

Heated Exchange on Iowa Senate Floor (VIDEO)

A partisan divide almost devolved into fisticuffs on the Iowa Senate floor Tuesday morning. Senators Mark Chelgren (R-Ottumwa) and Tom Courtney (D-Burlington) got into a very heated argument during debate over a bill.

Voices were raised, tempers flared and the two men appeared headed toward a physical confrontation before they were finally separated by their caucus leaders.

It all started during debate over Senate File 2320, a bill relating to providers of medical assistance and attendant care. Chelgren spoke in favor of the legislation. He then noted that one of his constituents, a longtime Democrat, was lobbying him and other senators about problems with medical assistance care in Iowa due to provisions in Obamacare.

AFSMCE, the state’s public employees union, sent letters to their members, encouraging them to call their senators. Chelgren says he asked his constituent the constituent for a copy of the AFSMCE letter.

“She told me how disappointed she was,” Sen. Chelgren recalled. “She had called Senator Courtney, explained the problem to Senator Courtney and explained to him that she was working with me to try to solve the problem. And she said the response she got was, ‘If AFSCME had wanted Senator Chelgren to have a copy of that letter they would have given one to him. Don’t give it to him.’”

Chelgren then accused Sen. Courtney of putting his own political interests and the interests of the Senate Democrats ahead of the citizens of Iowa.

“I am asking that we work together,” Chelgren continued. “I am asking that behavior like that not happen again. Senator Courtney, if you don’t recall the conversation, I ask that you look at yourself and ask if something like this comes up, please don’t let something like that happen again.”

That prompted Sen. Courtney to accuse Chelgren of making the issue personal. He claimed many of those lobbying him on the issue said Senator Chelgren never answers his phone and he acted like he didn’t care about the bill and “was trying to save money”.

Courtney fingerChelgren tried to respond. Courtney then pointed his finger at Chelgren, screaming, “You started this pal! You started it!”

A point of order was called and the two senators moved to the front of the podium where an intense argument ensued. Some onlookers say Senator Courtney called Chelgren a “lying piece of sh**”. Others say he did not finish the profane word.

Finally, the two were separated and Democrat Majority Leader Mike Gronstal called for a caucus meeting to give everyone a break.

The video provided by the legislature did not capture the exchange at the podium, but here is the discussion leading up to it and the beginning of the argument.

When the senate reconvened, Mark Chelgren apologized for his behavior. The bill passed unanimously, 49-0.

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Kevin Hall
Kevin Hall brings almost two decades of journalistic experience to TheIowaRepublican. Starting in college as a radio broadcaster, Hall eventually became a television anchor/reporter for stations in North Carolina, Missouri, and Iowa. During the 2007 caucus cycle, Hall changed careers and joined the political realm. He was the northwest Iowa field director for Fred Thompson's presidential campaign. Hall helped Terry Branstad return to the governor's office by organizing southwest Iowa for Branstad's 2010 campaign. Hall serves as a reporter/columnist for

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